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Liturgy in the 21st Century presented to Cardinal Sarah at Sacra Liturgia

Last week I had the great pleasure to attend the Sacra Liturgia conference in London. The highlight of the conference itself was the opening address by His Eminence Robert Cardinal Sarah -- Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. The Cardinal's address was a bold call for the re-orientation of Catholic liturgy back towards God and, specifically, for a call to return to ad orientem worship. This is where the priest faces liturgical east in common direction with the people. The Cardinal looked at the reforms of the Second Vatican Council in Sacrosanctum Concilium and pointed out that many of the implementations of the reforms went too far, and were fuelled by an agenda that was at odds with what the council really intended. This led to an erosion of understanding about what the sacrifice of the Mass is, and what the Eucharist really means for Roman Catholics. It was a deft, and brilliant, analysis. The Cardinal suggested priests begin/return to ad orientem worship ASAP as a crucial step in reclaiming Catholic understanding of the Mass. He suggested the first Sunday of Advent this year, as we turn to 'face the Lord who comes', as being a good time to start. I, for one, hope that this starts to happen as I agree with the Cardinal's take on this.

Hopefully we will be publishing the proceedings of this year's Sacra Liturgia conference *watch this space*. In the meantime, I'm delighted to introduce Liturgy in the Twenty-First Century: Contemporary Issues and Perspectives, which will be published on 14th July. This is the volume from last year's event in New York, and we presented a copy to Cardinal Sarah in London. The volume considers many aspects of liturgy in the 21st Century, and features contributions from Cardinal Burke, Archbishop Cordileone, Lauren Pristas and many more. On the back, from his address to the conference, Cardinal Sarah says;

'I ask you to be wise, like the householder... who knows when to bring out of his treasure things both new and old, so that the Sacred Liturgy as it is celebrated an lived today may lose nothing of the estimable riches of the Church's liturgical tradition, whilst always being open to legitimate development'

There is also an excellent chapter on the 'youth' and the liturgy, which looks at the phenomenon of the high number of young people who are interested in the traditional liturgy, and questions why this preference is so often dismissed or condescended towards by older generations. Indeed, there is still a prevalent (Blowing in the) wind of people who believe they are experts in liturgy 'to which the youth relates'... despite the fact that their own youth was quite some time ago.

To get your discounted copy please order through our website, and enter the code LITURGY20 to receive a 20% discount.

Pope Francis offers Mass ad orientem in the Sistine Chapel.

Author Interview - Dom Alcuin Reid on his recently edited 'T&T Clark Companion to Liturgy'

Note to readers: the T&T Clark Companion to Liturgy was published in December 2015, and has already received some extremely positive reviews. If you want to read more, click HERE! The Companion is currently on sale at a reduced price as our Book of the Month. See HERE for details on how to order your copy using the special discount. And lastly, you may be interested to know that the the Sacra Liturga conference 2016 will be taking place in London 5-8th July. The volume Liturgy in the Twenty-First Century: Contemporary Issues and Perspectives will be published in time for the conference, and can be ordered at registration for a discounted price.

Dom Alcuin, your T&T Clark Companion to Liturgy (our Feb 2016 Book of the Month) has just been published. Can you tell us something about its origins please?

The Companion was the idea of Tom Kraft, a T&T Clark editor some years ago, who wanted a volume in the series which would present something of the status quaestionis of liturgical studies in the Western Catholic Church at the beginning of the twenty first century. Undoubtedly Tom’s approach came in the light of the impetus given to these questions by the election of Pope Benedict XVI in 2005. As Cardinal Ratzinger he had taught for many years that “the true celebration of the Sacred Liturgy is the centre of any renewal of the Church whatever.” Western Catholics have endured a number of decades of liturgical turmoil since the middle of the twentieth century, and what is “the true celebration of the Sacred Liturgy” was then—and still is—very much a live issue.

Tom asked—well really, he insisted—that I compile and edit the volume. That commenced (too many) years of work with many generous contributors and others who gave of their talents eventually to produce what we hope will provide students and those generally interested in Western Catholic liturgy with a resource that contains some of the best theological, historical and pastoral liturgical scholarship available today, which does not ignore the liturgical issues of recent decades, and which will serve as a guide towards further study in these areas.

So what is “liturgy”?

The best answer to that question is found in the first chapter, “Liturgical Theology,” by Professor David Fagerberg of Notre Dame University, USA. Shorter answers are found in the A-Z section of the book. Liturgy is, of course, the public ritual worship of the Church in and through which, in Catholic theology, we hold that Christ acts in a singularly privileged way in our world today. Our optimal participation in the liturgy, our connectivity with this divine action, facilitates our own sanctification and empowers us for Christian life and mission. That’s why Cardinal Ratzinger emphasised that it is the “centre of any renewal of the Church whatever.” If we get the liturgy wrong our connectivity to Christ is impeded. And without optimal connectivity to Christ we, and those so in need of the mission of the Church today in the various and complex situations that the 21st century presents, will lack something essential, we will suffer.

Academically, where does the Companion stand in the field of liturgical studies?

Firstly I must emphasise that this is a companion to liturgical studies in “the Western Catholic tradition.” Some commentators have already noted that this subtitle is unfortunately missing from much of the Companion’s promotional material. The book neither sets out to ignore the Churches of the East nor to minimise their venerable and rich liturgical traditions. Really, another Companion should be commissioned for the great Eastern liturgical tradition.

In the light of what some have termed the “liturgy-wars” of recent decades, contemporary studies in Western liturgy have tended to be fairly ‘safe,’ avoiding critical analysis of the “troubles” following the Second Vatican Council. If you can regurgitate your professor’s take on the liturgical reform following the Council you will pass your seminary course. If you do higher studies in liturgy and do a purely historical analysis of rites or aspects of them, or “engage” with “liturgical sources” (demonstrate a knowledge of ancient liturgical texts), you will receive your degree without difficulty. But should you use history, theology or pastoral practice critically to question the status quo of liturgical thought or practice in your diocese or academic institution, you will often encounter an intolerance that verges on totalitarianism: “Don’t mention the war!” The situation is improving, certainly, but this problem persists amongst a certain generation and school of liturgists.

The Companion moves beyond this academic impasse. Many if not most of its contributors are indeed prepared to “mention the war,” and even to admit that it has occasioned severe casualties. The motivation for this is positive—academically and pastorally. The academic questions to which the situation of Western liturgy since the Council has given rise must be studied. The conclusions of such studies must be taken into account in decisions in respect of future liturgical life and reform. So too the associated pastoral issues must be addressed. Yes, a sound knowledge of liturgical history is very important. The ability thoroughly to engage in liturgical sources is certainly a skill and informs the historical study of liturgy. More important today, however, is the ability critically to engage with the liturgical and theological principles operative in history in making a critical assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of our current ritual and pastoral practice. If the Companion helps to form a generation of liturgical scholars who are open to such an approach it will have made a significant contribution.

What do you think is the Companion's unique contribution?

I think that is, really, the shift from “safe” liturgical study to “critical” liturgical study that I was just talking about. Part III of the Companion, “The Liturgy of the Second Vatican Council,” contains two chapters by Dom Anscar Chupungco OSB (†2013). They take a very different stance to my own chapter and to that of Fr Thomas Kocik in the same section. Students should read them all, attentively and critically. Identifying our different approaches, sources and assumptions will be instructive, indeed I hope it will be formative in acquiring not only a broad appreciation of differing scholars’ stances, but more importantly in developing a critical ability to engage with the sources, underlying principles and realities. This will indeed help to form better scholarship and pastoral practice.

Is there anything else you would like to highlight about the Companion?

The Companion is a large reference book. As such it has many uses—from studying particular chapters according to given interests and needs, to quickly referring to terms and concepts in the A-Z section, as well as making use of its extensive bibliographies for further research. But it also provides something of a course for studies in liturgical theology, history and contemporary issues. Certainly, it does not and could not contain all that one could study— and that is not its purpose. Its purpose is to accompany, to be a companion for, the student of Sacred Liturgy so that he or she will be well equipped to pursue further studies in the field. I hope and pray that we have, at least in part, achieved that aim.

Thank you very much, Dom Alcuin Reid.

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'Theological Theology' and John Webster

On Monday, 29th of June, in St Andrews we were thrilled to present Professor John Webster with the volume published to acknowledge his significant achievements in theology, 'Theological Theology. Essays in the Honour of John Webster.'

The big [and it really is a substantial volume] book was put together by the three editors, who were John Webster’s students – Justin Stratis, Darren Sarisky and R. David Nelson. The title ‘Theological Theology’ has been taken from the inaugural lecture delivered by John Webster in 1997, when he became the Lady Margaret Professor of Divinity at the University of Oxford.

The volume includes essays written by eminent systematic theologians, theological ethicists, and biblical scholars from a wide range of Christian traditions. And all of these contributions express a deep gratitude for Webster's work in the areas of the nature and method of theology, Scripture and its interpretation, Christology, and the reading and use of theological dialogue partners.

I am including here a photo of John, Darren, Justin and David:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

‘This rich and diverse collection of essays in Christian doctrine offers a fulsome and fitting tribute to one of the most significant voices in contemporary systematic theology, a scholar and disciple whose dogmatic insight, gracious collegiality, and cheerful witness has inspired and nourished so many over the years. Addressing in various ways the scriptural foundations and central teachings of the Christian faith, the contributions to this excellent volume attend to matters of doctrinal import that have occupied the work of John  Webster for many years, and – in the good providence of God – will continue to do so for many years to come.’ Professor Paul T. Nimmo, University of Aberdeen, UK.

This volume will be available to you all from the 27^th August 2015

Summer Conference Round-up

The season of mists and mellow fruitfulness feels as if it's well upon us, and those heady days of summer when the year still seemed to be in its prime now register only as dim memories. The jungle-drums of panic are already starting to beat away for SBL/AAR, and I'm considering just not bothering unpacking my last conference bag and hoping that whatever clothing I wore for the last gig will miraculously wash itself and be appropriate for San Diego.

But what a conference season it was for Biblical Studies this year. For me it kicked off with the wonderful Jesus and Brian conference at King's College London, which included the cracking line from John Cleese; 'if someone were to ask me what the most interesting thing to come out of Monty Python was I'd be tempted to say this conference'. I'm thrilled that we'll be publishing the book of the conference in August next year (if everything goes to plan). The Jesus and Brian papers were uniformly excellent. I particularly enjoyed George Brooke's, which included another great line; 'after all the Pythons had done more than most of my students do, they'd actually read the Dead Sea Scrolls'.If you're interested, T&T Clark live-tweeted the conference ---and you should be able to find soundbites on our twitter feed quite easily.

ISBL in Vienna followed shortly after we'd looked on the bright side of life, and I had many profitable meetings in between slabs of sacher torte and Wiener melange. I also shared a 'Viennese Sausage Experience' in what later turned out to be a favourite cafe of Freud's. My dining partner and I decided we wouldn't analyse that one too much. It was particularly great to catch up with series editors, and publishing colleagues and friends from other houses.

Next in line was SOTS - which I didn't attend myself. This was a great sadness as I was looking forward to John Day's presidential conference. I still remember his lectures on Genesis 1-11 from my student days. They were very good - as evidenced by the fact that I actually went to them. We were represented at SOTS by Miriam Cantwell and Matt Porter. I've heard it was a great conference, and that a particular highlight was John J. Collins' paper on 'Torah and Jewish Identity in the Second Temple Period'.

Whilst SOTS was going on I was in Providence, RI, for the meeting of the Catholic Biblical Association. This was great fun, and the Dominicans hosted the event wonderfully. Great to see so many young friars. White habits everywhere. The seafood in Providence was truly excellent as well.

After CBA came SNTS in Szeged, which from Providence was a time-difference I didn't particularly enjoy. This conference was superbly organised, which makes a huge difference for us publishers. I enjoyed Keith Elliot's paper on the historical critical method... which included a cheeky line that went something like this; 'sometimes might it be best to admit that we do not know what the text means?' Lots of thumping great bowls of goulash for all to enjoy at the conference dinners. I also enjoyed eating Magalica pork whilst I was there. This comes from a curly-haired breed of pig, and it is delicious. It is the closest we can get to the now-extinct British breed, the Lincolnshire Curlycoat. The Curlycoat became extinct as a direct result of the 1955 Howitt report, which recommended a simplification of pig breeds. Curlycoats were used to help boost the Mangalica stock in Hungary and Austria in the late 50s so there is at least some genetic crossover. This pig story has absolutely nothing to do with Biblical Studies, but it was a valuable part of the conference experience for me. It also reflects just how much attitudes towards food production have changed in the UK since the 1950s.

The final conference of the season was BNTC (British New Testament) in Manchester. Great papers from Eric Eve and Rafael Rodriguez on Oral Tradition and the NT. Note Rafael's recent book on the subject. Similarly a great plenary from Professor Joan Taylor on Mary Magdaelene --- trying to find the missing Magdala. It was also nice to see James Crossley's Harnessing Chaos, which appears in our new Reception History sub-series (Scriptural Traces), feature as part of a panel review session. All present enjoyed Jorunn Okland's 'method dressing' approach to the session. A hint as to what this involved can be found on the book's truly extraordinary cover!

So a fun summer of conferences. Lots of good conversations. Lots of interesting people. Lots of good food. Now all I have to do is try to sleep, diet, and exercise between now and SBL/AAR... and try to find the will to unpack. 

 

 

Edward Schillebeeckx 100 Conference

 The Edward Schillebeeckx 100 Conference was held in Nijmegen, the Netherlands, in August this year. The Conference marks the 100th birthday of the renowned theologian Edward Schillebeeckx, whose 'Collected Works' T&T Clark-Bloomsbury have just published, available as a beautiful colour-coded set (see the link below). The individual volumes can also be bought separately. Anna Turton, Commissioning Editor of the Theology list, was invited to attend this event and to say a few words at the conference dinner.

This is Anna's report of the conference:

 

-- Last Friday I travelled to the Netherlands to attend the E S conference held by Radboud University Nijmegen. It was a flying visit but I am so happy that I went there. The conference was attended by junior scholars and professors who are already well established in the field of Theology, and all of those people had such a wonderful time.  I have taken the names of the speakers from the program – Robert Schreiter, Sebastian Kim, Edmund Kee-Fook Chia, Siobhán Garrigan, Carsten Barwasser, Johannes Hoff, Graham Ward, Erik Borgman, Aristotle Papanikolaou, Martin Poulsom, Mary-Catherine Hilkert, Lieven Boeve, Frederiek Depoortere, Christoph Hübenthal, Michael Kirwan and Vincent Lloyd – this list of names is very impressive indeed. I was told the papers presented were all first rate and the interaction between the young scholars and the professors was very fruitful on many levels.

Friday afternoon was delightful! And the Edward Schillebeeckx remembrance service was very touching and serene. We all had the opportunity to visit the tombstone of the great theologian and guess what? There is a roundabout dedicated to him as well! During the presentations of “The Schillebeeckx project” Professor Schreurs unveiled the 11 volumes of Collected Works of Edward Schillebeeckx – it was a great moment (see the picture below!).

The conference dinner was very good and Stephan van Erp’s speeches were very funny. I felt very honoured to be able to deliver my very short talk during this dinner. Judging by the round of applause at the end, I think it must have gone well.

I would like to emphasize here that it was a great Friday and I have learned so much about Edward Schillebeeckx during my brief visit in Nijmegen and Ravenstein. It was a real honour to be there, to talk to the great people and to participate in the memorial service. One scholar mentioned that the atmosphere was amazing throughout this conference and I think he was absolutely right – I have never felt more welcome than last Friday.--

The unveiling of the Collected Works of Edward Schillebeeckx by Professor Schreurs. They are available for sale here.

Ted Schoof beginning the proceedings.

 

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SOTS Summer Meeting 2014 review

T&T Clark were happily present at the SOTS summer meeting earlier this week in sunny St Hilda's College in Oxford. The summer meeting of the Society of Old Testament Studies kicked off to a very strong start with Professor John J. Collins across from Yale delivering the opening lecture “Torah and Jewish Identity in the Second Temple Period.” Some thought-provoking questions were posed about the clarification of terms regarding how groups are used to form identity, and taking an instrumentalist approach (and the myriad issues with that term alone). The lecture itself was lively and entertainingly delivered.

Tuesday dawned with brilliant sunshine, and some very healthy interest in some of the new releases featured on the T&T Clark stand, not least The Ammonites by Craig Tyson, (pictured below) newly released into our LHBOTs series, and 'I Lifted My Eyes and Saw', a forthcoming LHBOTs release this month, about which will be written later. The two morning lectures were on the topic of rain which, in the brilliant sunshine, felt only mildly incongruous. Professor John Day's introductions to the speakers were appreciated by all, as he revealed that Dr Helen Jacobus used to write screen plays and even had a West End agent!

Unfortunately, this was where my report has to cease, as the return to London called. Suffice it to say it was a great conference, with interesting speakers and attendees, and a good showing of our books!

 

Jesus and Brian Or: What Have the Pythons Done For Us?

King's College London, of the University of London, are hosting a tremendous event in two weeks, entitled Jesus & Brian or: What Have The Pythons Done For Us? This conference will take a look at the topic of the Historical Jesus, through the lens of the Monty Python film 'The Life of Brian'.

There will be talks from international luminaries in the field(s), including: Bart Ehrman, Paula Fredriksen, Amy-Jill Levine, Martin Goodman, George Brooke, Steve Mason, Adele Reinhartz, Helen Bond, James Crossley, Philip Davies, Richard Burridge and Guy Stiebel. The director of the film Terry Jones (and other mystery guest) will discuss the film and its reception on Friday night, 20 June. The remarkable John Cleese will give an after-dinner talk at the Conference Dinner at Great Hall of Inner Temple on Saturday 21 June hosted by the Master of Temple Church Robin Griffith-Jones. This will be a sparkling wine reception, followed by a multi-course meal, with wine, and will undoubtedly be a very memorable evening (Dinner not included in standard ticket price). On Sunday 22 June there will also be discussion with the film's editor Julian Doyle.

This is the conference for anyone interested in a new way of looking at the subject of Jesus, the Romans, and Judaea in the first century. Bloomsbury T&T Clark are proud to announce that we are the official publishers of the event, and we will be publishing a collection of the articles delivered at the conference in 2015, edited by the conference organiser Joan Taylor.

There are a few tickets left at the following prices:

Student/unwaged Day Tickets are just £32.50. Standard Day tickets £65.

The Conference Dinner is open to anyone - and a guest - who buys a conference ticket (Full or Day), and is £65 per head. Three day tickets are also still bookable at full and student rates. All tickets include lunches and refreshments: Bookings close on June 16th. For tickets and more information, see here: http://www.kcl.ac.uk/artshums/depts/trs/events/jandb/index.aspx

For further information, please contact the conference organiser: Prof. Joan E. Taylor, [email protected] For practical enquiries, please contact the conference assistant: Michelle Fletcher [email protected]

Launch of Prayer and Thought in Monastic Tradition: Essays in Honour of Sr Benedicta Ward SLG

Yesterday we launched 'Prayer and Thought in Monastic Tradition: Essays in Honour of Benedicta Ward SLG' at Harris Manchester College in Oxford. It was a wonderful evening, and a real first for me as for this book I have had a foot each side of the fence. One as publisher, and the other as volume editor. The evening went extremely well. We had a wonderful drinks reception, during which I gave a short speech, as did my co-editors Santha Bhattacharji and Rowan Williams. Rowan then presented the volume to Sister Benedicta, and she offered some gracious words of thanks.

Working on this volume has been a real privilege for me, not only as it has provided the opportunity to honour one of the leading medievalists of her generation, but also because it has given me an opportunity to really thank someone who has given me and countless others a great deal.

I am also extremely proud of the volume we have produced. As my colleague Santha says in the introduction the chapters are quietly revisionist, almost without exception. This hopefully will mean, as Sister Benedicta said herself yesterday, that there will be much for others to follow up as a result of this collection. Our contributors really are the cream of the crop, as you can see from the contents list and I am grateful to them all for their excellent work, and also for their good humour as I put them under rather Draconian deadlines... which they all met!

I would love to talk about the contents of the volume here, or post a sample chapter or two, but amongst our excellent contributions I cannot pick a favourite. So instead I post my own very short biographical piece on Sister Benedicta which I hope will give blog readers an insight into the volume and into Sister Benedicta's work -  Download Chapter 22 . [Please note that the file included here is an uncorrected proof]

Launch of the Archbishop of Canterbury's Lent Book: Looking through the Cross, by Graham Tomlin

All went well at the launch of the Archbishop of Canterbury's 2014 Lent book last night at Lambeth Palace. The book is by Graham Tomlin, and is entitled 'Looking Through the Cross'. Tomlin read a short extract from the book at the launch, which was both striking and moving, and showed how this book offers a bold way of reconnecting with the theology of the cross. It is perfect for Lenten reflection.

Commenting upon the book, Archbishop Justin Welby drew attention to the line in his preface which remarked that Tomlin's book 'reminds us that whilst many churches are cruciform in their architecture far fewer are cruciform in their spirit'. A profound insight.

Robin Baird-Smith, Publisher of Bloomsbury/Continuum praised the book, saying that [we as publishers] 'publish a great many books that we like, but very few that we love, this is one that we love'.

The book can be ordered here.

 

Biblical Studies Summer conferences round up

This year we (the ‘we’ that is T&T Clark in all its corporate gloriousness) attended quite a lot of conferences in Biblical Studies.

The season kicked off with International SBL in St Andrews where, despite the gulls and surprising heat, it was great to catch up with people. I had a lovely lunch with our LHBOTS series editors (Andrew Mein and Claudia Camp), and enjoyed discussing a few potential and existing projects with Athalya Brenner, Katie Edwards (Sheffield), Todd Still and many more. It was a very busy conference, and sadly I missed a couple of people I’d really hoped to touch base with. But a great ISBL... my only gripe is that the table sizes were about half the size that SBL had told us they'd be, and the coffee wasn't in the same place as the book exhibit. Both these things are annoying, it's not cheap to attend these events.

SOTS was in Bangor this year, under the presidency of T&T Clark author Eryl Davies (The Immoral Bible, Biblical Criticism: A Guide for the Perplexed). My colleagues Caitlin and Matt attended, and whilst book sales were quite slow it was a good time to meet with our UK-based Old Testament/Hebrew Bible authors.

The IOSOT conference in Munich was nice, but extremely hot, and slightly unbearable accordingly. The ‘cultural’ programme was truly excellent, including a full Bavarian beerhall banquet provided by the Archbishop of Munich and Freising.

Needless to say, I enjoyed it tremendously. It was also good to catch up with Thomas Romer, to have our ICC board meeting, and to meet authors and potential authors from outside the UK.

Last week was the BNTC (British New Testament), back in St Andrew’s (indeed top St Andrew’s restaurant recommendations: Forgan’s and The Seafood Restaurant), and as it was a fairly quiet conference I was able to attend some papers. Chris Keith (author of ‘Jesus’ Literacy’ and co-editor of ‘Jesus, Criteria and the Demise of Authenticity’) gave a great ‘tour d’horizon’ of Social Memory theory, in which he debunked several myths, and outlined a strong case for why this area of theory is so fruitful in biblical studies at the moment – and why it will become more so. Chris addressed the criticisms that memory theory doesn’t add terribly much to historical critical method and that it can be used simply to vindicate the biblical account, and showed quite clearly that not only can it mean a great deal, and throw up a lot of important questions, but also that it is only mis-applications (or simplistic applications) of memory theory that function as uncritical means of accepting the biblical account.

I have to confess a personal fascination with this approach, so expect to see rather more on memory (and ancient media culture) from T&T Clark in the future.

I also attended a panel review of Francis Watson’s new book with Eerdmans (who can thank me later for the publicity) on Gospel writing. It was an interesting session, in which Watson wasn’t given an entirely easy ride. A particular criticism was that Watson dispenses with Q and then sees Thomas as a possible source for Luke and Matthew. This doesn’t really hold water for those who date T in its entirety as post Lk and Mt. Nevertheless it’s clear that Watson’s book is a major contribution (which I'd have loved to have published!). It would have been nice if Mark Goodacre had been there to join the discussion and to give his thoughts on both Thomas and Q, which formed a large part of the discussion. It was nice to see Helen Bond, Loveday Alexander, Chris Keith, James Crossley and several others in St Andrews. Similarly, I enjoyed discussing a potential new edition of ‘One Lord, One God’ with Larry Hurtado and catching up with John Lyons about our new Reception History monograph series (link to vol 1), Scriptural Traces, which publishes as a subseries of the Library of Biblical Studies. Proper website coming soon. I was very much hoping to catch up properly with Steve Walton (and a few others), but I didn’t get the chance to.

So a good summer of conferences and many more excellent and enjoyable conversations than mentioned above. Now I suppose I’d best get back to planning for SBLAAR.